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plb7777
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Why develop three different versions? 252644

plb7777 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:37 am

Dear developers;

I really don't understand why you people are wasting time to develop three different versions of same manager instead of one full feature version. You are wasting your valuable time by developing three different versions with three different codes. you should focus on FDM 3.x full and lite and focus more on browser integration, resume and video er options and the remaining rest time you could spend on something else like gardening etc.

please focus on single manager and remove and replace all others so you can have much more time. the version you work on that's on your own.

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Re: Why develop three different versions? p441r

johnlgalt » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:48 pm

Because not all of us like the old, clunky 3.x interface, for one reason.
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plb7777
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Re: Why develop three different versions? p441r

plb7777 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:53 am

Sorry to disappoint you but FDM up to 3.x versions are the most successful and popular version of free manager and these versions are complete pack with lots of features. FYI internet manager from its release didn't change its design and have more focus on developing core engine and browser integration module and ing videos from video sharing sites. I hope free manager team will rethink and design the new FDM 6.x according to that for the future.
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StormJumper » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:01 am

johnlgalt wrote:Because not all of us like the old, clunky 3.x interface, for one reason.

Based on what logic? Clunky is far from the norm for 3.x it has worked far better for me allowing more control to customize it. That what's make a good software one that does what the wants to set not think it knows what the wants.


plb7777 wrote:Sorry to disappoint you but FDM up to 3.x versions are the most successful and popular version of free manager and these versions are complete pack with lots of features. FYI internet manager from its release didn't change its design and have more focus on developing core engine and browser integration module and ing videos from video sharing sites.

Couldn't agree more I tried 5.x and dump it so far and never looked back after reinstall 3.x. It's customization options does more to give one freedom of control.

plb7777 wrote:I hope free manager team will rethink and design the new FDM 6.x according to that for the future.

If they listen to the s then it will work out better. It's a give and take and having good makes it better for both and developers to make it even better software in the end.
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Re: Why develop three different versions? p441r

johnlgalt » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:44 pm

StormJumper wrote:
johnlgalt wrote:Because not all of us like the old, clunky 3.x interface, for one reason.

Based on what logic? Clunky is far from the norm for 3.x it has worked far better for me allowing more control to customize it. That what's make a good software one that does what the wants to set not think it knows what the wants.


The last I checked, subjective decisions are not, by the very definition, necessarily logically-based decisions.

If a does not like the old interface, a does not like it. Plain and simple.

I thrived on FDM 3.x, but I like the way FDM 5 looks much, much more. I also like that FDM 5 has native 64bit versions (though I've never verified if all of the associated libraries, etc. are also pure 64bit), whereas FDM 3.9.7 is a strictly 32 bit application. It's not so much of a problem if your browsers are 32bit - but all of my browsers are native 64 bit browsers as well, and it gets to be a PITA at times making it work correctly (for reference, I use both the Nightly builds of Firefox (currently version 66.0a1), 64bit only, and the Canary builds of Chrome, also 64bit).

I have a lot of respect for you SJ, as you've been around here a lot longer than I have (and I didn't just yesterday, either), but I have to take up the argument against you on this one.

There is also the fact that I have a different use-case from other s (normal in the world of computer s) so the FDM 5 interface (though build 6924 anyway) accomplishes exactly what I need it to accomplish without any deficiencies. I don't make use of batch dowloading, nor video ing, but do make use of Server Time and date for DLs, as well (occasionally) as BitTorrent DLs.

I agree with your assessment that FDM 3 is more customizable - but it does not have any feature that I don't already get from FDM 5.

My hope is that FDM 6 ends up being a modern approach to FDM 3's customizations.
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StormJumper » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:11 am

johnlgalt wrote:I agree with your assessment that FDM 3 is more customizable - but it does not have any feature that I don't already get from FDM 5.

My hope is that FDM 6 ends up being a modern approach to FDM 3's customizations.


Well if v5 was any indications then v6 won't be any better then v3. For all v5 it didn't even give the control - that is what makes a software that everyone wants. And mine work on my x64 system Browser without problems already. I even ed gigabyte anime files with v3 without issues. If v6 follow the path of v5 then the adoption rate will be the same or worse. And even simple changes when I first started using v5 was problematic that I got rid of it and went back to v3 and never looked back. Even s on here ask for v5 to be like v3 in controls but with update UI and that didn't happen and they went to v6 so that should tell one something already.
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plb7777
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Re: Why develop three different versions? p441r

plb7777 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:32 am

If the developers plan to migrate to a better UI then they should develop a good modern UI for fdm 3.x rather than developing complete version.
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Re: Why develop three different versions? p441r

Usher » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:07 pm

Could you suggest some file/ manager with a good modern UI as an example to follow, please?
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Re: Why develop three different versions? p441r

johnlgalt » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:19 pm

plb7777 wrote:If the developers plan to migrate to a better UI then they should develop a good modern UI for fdm 3.x rather than developing complete version.


In addition to Usher's query, there is also what was stated when the Dev(s) initially started developing FDM 5 in the first place:

From viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17363

our team would like to offer you a more streamlined UI with a friendlier approach to configuration. Thanks to the revamped software engine, you will enjoy efficient and stable multi-thread ing as well as overall better performance and responsiveness. FDM5 features cross-platform for both Windows and Mac OS.


Also, in the same post, there are Known Issues, as well as lists of enhancements.

The primary takeaway, though, is that this is newly written software, not a 'skin' on an existing version, for a variety of reasons, MacOS only being one of the many reasons (Hint: This one: No for Windows XP/Vista. Windows version uses CEF framework which is going to drop XP/Vista very soon. - Which is *NOT* used in FDM 3).

And now FDM 6 has a *Nix release, which has been on of the biggest requests in FDM's long history of existence.
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Re: Why develop three different versions? p441r

StormJumper » Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:33 am

johnlgalt wrote:In addition to Usher's query, there is also what was stated when the Dev(s) initially started developing FDM 5 in the first place:

From viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17363

our team would like to offer you a more streamlined UI with a friendlier approach to configuration. Thanks to the revamped software engine, you will enjoy efficient and stable multi-thread ing as well as overall better performance and responsiveness. FDM5 features cross-platform for both Windows and Mac OS.


Also, in the same post, there are Known Issues, as well as lists of enhancements.

Streamlined as in lack of functions didn't go will with v5 from the getgo. Complaints came in loud and clear.

johnlgalt wrote:The primary takeaway, though, is that this is newly written software, not a 'skin' on an existing version, for a variety of reasons, MacOS only being one of the many reasons (Hint: This one: No for Windows XP/Vista. Windows version uses CEF framework which is going to drop XP/Vista very soon. - Which is *NOT* used in FDM 3).

And now FDM 6 has a *Nix release, which has been on of the biggest requests in FDM's long history of existence.


MacOS that has little to no . Apple should be the one doing for it but considering how they are diehard control freak with their software it's no wonder there still around. for XP/Vista I think that was long gone already. Windows 7 is almost here. I've installed and use v3 on Windows 10x64 Pro without problems as I don't use it for Torrent or YT . I have specific software dedicate to those functions and have no worry to use FDM for just run of the mill s and it work without have to pay for something like IDM(paid) which is worse then anything I seen written for a er.
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Re: Why develop three different versions? p441r

plb7777 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:12 pm

Usher wrote:Could you suggest some file/ manager with a good modern UI as an example to follow, please?

Eagleget, ninja (ninja manager), freemake video er and many more have modern and cool UI to follow.

Instead of doing complete makeover FDM developer team first transform FDM 3.x to a modern UI then start adding new features.
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Re: Why develop three different versions? p441r

Attacker » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:12 am

3.9.x is the best FDM till now.
Light, smooth, fully functional
5.x is totally a toy compared to 3.9.x

The only pity of 3.9.x now is that it doesn't Microsoft Edge(Classic Edge, not the chromium Edge) :D
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